Bar Liston 12

The Joint

Piazza Brà, 14a
37122 Verona VR
Phone: +38 045 8031168


My buddy Brian and I have very similar tastes in food. I thought he’d flip out over an authentic (as in, in Italy) carbonara sauce, especially since he’d never had one before (right Brian?). It’s very, very high on my Top 5 All-Time Favorite Pasta Sauces.

Unfortunately, Bar Liston 12 is right at the top of my All-Time Worst Dining Experiences in Italy (granted, it’s a short list) due to the lousy noodles, rather cartilaginous pork (was that ham? bacon? sow’s ear?) and beaten raw egg yolk they purported to be Spaghetti Carbonara. It was just disgusting; almost as much as the fact that we paid exorbitant prices (something like €4 for a glass of Coke!) and stormed out of there in frustration and resorted to the special on cheeseburgers at the McDonald’s in Affi.

They were a much better deal, especially with regard to our satisfaction.


What. A. Nightmare.

This place is along what I can only assume is one of the main tourist-trappy areas of Verona – right on the circle surrounding the Arena. They serve sub-Stouffer’s quality food at obscenely inflated prices. We had tried to go to another place nearby, highly recommended by a friend who is something of an Italy-expert. Unfortunately, after a comedy of errors while trying to find the B&B, then trying to find parking in Verona while coping with the Italian style of driving, we showed up between the end of their lunch hours and the reopening for dinner.

It was raining. The trip through the city had been terrifying. We were wet, miserable, tired, stressed and HUNGRY. We just stumbled back to the main drag (in an effort not to get lost and overstay our parking) and decided to just eat something and get back out of the city before dark. The only thing that stands out about this place is the awfulness of the food. My ‘Lasagna al forno’ tasted like it came out of a can. A Chef Boyardee can. It is such a bummer that the worst Italian food I’ve ever had in my life was in Italy. But I feel like it’s my own fault.

It’s alright. We went home and made better food (puttanesca sauce with penne) than this joint could ever dream of serving.

Relais San Michele

The Joint

Localitá Cason Degli Ulivi 11
37010 Rivoli Veronese (VR)
Phone: (+39)0457238142 Fax: (+39)0457238142


This was a terribly cute and pleasant stay, and a great breakfast the next morning as well. Too bad the location was so hard to find — good thing we arrived during daylight.

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What an ordeal! This place was impossible to find, and I don’t think that’s the fault of the proprietors direction – more of a general note of caution for foreigners trying to drive in Italy. Once we found the place, we were pleasantly surprised by the eclectic décor and our lovely host, Niccolo. Unfortunately, the place seems to be across the aqueduct from a quarry. But that might go some distance to explaining the huge amount of lovely stone- and marble-work in our room and bathroom.

The price was great, but you have to have a car to get there. Since we won’t be driving in Italy again any time soon (if ever), we probably won’t go back. But we will recommend it to more adventurous friends.

greetings from Innsbruck, Austria

Darling little town – much like Bolzano, Italy (from our trip in September 2005). No Lippanzer Stallions, though they are here somewhere.

We’ll be continuing on a little later this afternoon to Verona, Italy and staying in a B&B near Lake Garda.

Pictures to follow at the nearest non-pay-by-the-minute internet cafe!