Salut de Iași!

I’m back in Iași this week for something like my 7th (is that right? that number seems pretty low) trip to Romania since the initial one in November 2006. I’ve not been back here for a visit since March 2009 — it’s really unusual for me to not visit for a whole year, but then again, my team has come to visit me in Germany in whole and in part, so although I haven’t been here as much as I like, I think the contact to my group is still good — I hope they agree.

I’m making a little bit more* of an effort with the language this time, thanks to a nifty Berlitz phrasebook from my parents. I think it has helped a lot with my pronunciation, too: I learned that I have been saying some things incorrectly since the beginning. Oops. And this is despite the fact that modernization has been tricking me. How? Well, view this post in Windows (XP or earlier) and take a look at the character between the a and i in the title. Does it look like an ‘s’ with a little comma below it? Or just a box? Odds are, it’s just a box (unless you’ve already installed the European Union Expansion Font Update). Boxes instead of proper characters are ugly, so while the rest of the Latin (more or less) alphabet world was getting their personal computing and desktop publishing and graphical design on with all the characters they needed for their languages, Romanian has not been patiently waiting for the s-comma and t-comma characters to become part of Unicode 3.0 standard, and for the biggest share of the computer-user market to support it. Instead, they by-and-largely just pressed on ahead, substituting ‘s’ and ‘t’ for ș and ț. Perhaps locals had to compromise — they wanted to use computers and had to settle for incorrect characters (or sometimes using t/s-cedilla substitutions, which are a little better, but still not correct).

papanașiWhat’s the big deal? Maybe nothing at all for native speakers who know what the words sound like, or kids who started learning to spell in the post-XP / Unicode 3 world. But I sound like a schmuck ordering “mamaliguta” instead of “mamaliguța” and “papanasi” instead of “papanași.” But after living in Bavaria for six years, I know a șnițel when I see one — no matter how it’s spelled.

*Zero plus 10% still isn’t very much.

4 thoughts on “Salut de Iași!”

  1. Expatsagain

    Funny, but so true. You have my admiration for learning the language; I’m at a total loss.

  2. cliff1976

    Thanks, but I wouldn’t say I’m “learning” Romanian. I’m trying to “use” a little of it as much as possible. I guess I’m doing better than expected with regard to the pronunciation (once I discovered computer-composed menus and the like were tricking me), but even if i get my “scripts” together so that I can ask a question in Romanian, I’m still not even close to processing more than “da” or “nu” and body language responses.

    Since I only visit my team in Iași several times a year for a few days at a stretch, I really don’t expect much in the way of further progress. There’s just not enough exposure.

  3. Snooker in Berlin

    Well, I’m not getting the box… the ș is showing up just fine for me. YEA!
    Being able to give simple answers and to speak a bit of the local lingo is awesome.
    Congrats for not only finally figuring out the pronunciation problem, but for caring enough to try to do it right.

  4. cliff1976

    There’s something weird for me on MSIE 7 on Windows XP. I can see the s-comma character in the title of the blog post just fine — I think that’s because I’ve posted that post with HTML entities. In your comment, I see the box. Also, wenn s-comma or t-comman content comes into my eyeballs from places like Gmail or Google Reader, the box reappears in both cases.

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